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Redemption as Restoration or Elevation (4) ~ SUMMA

 ME> Can you summarize everything that we have discussed up above. ChatGPT> Certainly! Here’s a summary of our discussion on redemption: 1. Concept of Redemption: Basic Definition: Redemption involves a movement from a bad state to a good state, often at a cost or price. This transition can involve either a return to a former good state (restoration) or a move to a new, even better state (improvement). Example in the Bible: The story of Dinah in Genesis illustrates this concept. Dinah starts in a good state with her family, moves to a bad state after being violated by Shechem, and then faces an attempted but flawed redemption through marriage, which is ultimately a failed effort at restoration. 2. Restoration vs. Improvement: Restoration: Returning to the original good state that was lost. For instance, if an Israelite loses his house, a relative might redeem it by buying it back and returning it to him in its original condition. Improvement: Going beyond restoration...

Redemption As Restoration or Elevation (3)

 ME> Yes, while some forms of redemption may aim to bring us back to what was, others may indeed aim to lead us to something even greater. And in the case of being led to something greater, who's going to complain? Who's going to complain and say, hey, look, you're supposed to actually take me back to something that was what it was before. Nobody will complain if it's even better. In fact the improved state might be like a superset of the former state.   If a son loses a toy like a worn out tennis racket and his father instead of searching for that racket, gives him a brand new racket, is the son going to complain? No. ChatGPT> Exactly! The idea of redemption leading to an even greater state than the original one captures a profound truth: when something lost is restored in a way that surpasses its former state, it's not just a return to the status quo but an elevation that exceeds expectations. Your example of the son and the tennis racket illustrates this pe...

Redemption as Restoration or Elevation (2)

ME>  Let me qualify that bit. I said earlier that I conceive of redemption as a movement from a bad place to a good place. I think I could also say instead of place, I can use the word state. Redemption is a movement from a bad state, like a state of affairs or state of being. It's a movement from a bad state to a good state.  Now the key is this. Nobody originally is in a bad state. Life doesn't start off in a bad state. Something has to happen for us to wind up being in that bad state. So when we move from a bad state to a good state, the good state is either the former state we were in before we were in the bad state, or it's a completely newer and even better good state than the prior good state. Do you see what I'm saying?  So in effect, what I'm saying is redemption involves a move from a good state to a bad state, and then either going back to the good state or to a newer, even better good state. I hope that wasn't confusing. Hence we say buy back and ...

Redemption as Restoration or Elevation (1)

 ME> In Psalm 111, it says he has sent redemption to his people. The he most likely refers to God. Actually, it refers to God. But what is the redemption referring to? Isn't the signal act of redemption in the Old Testament the Exodus, the parting of the Red Sea and the Exodus? Isn't that the signal event? What is redemption referring to? Is it referring to the Passover lamb incident right on the heels of the Exodus? ChatGPT> Yes, the "redemption" in Psalm 111:9, which says, "He sent redemption to his people," does indeed refer to God and likely alludes to the Exodus event, which is the signal act of redemption in the Old Testament. In the context of the Old Testament, the term "redemption" often refers to God's deliverance of Israel from bondage, particularly the deliverance from Egypt. The Exodus, including the parting of the Red Sea and the liberation of the Israelites from slavery, is a defining moment in Israel's history, symboli...

Maintaining a Zero Balance & the Law

 ME > What does it mean to maintain a zero balance? I've heard that expression maintain zero balance. What does it mean? "Maintaining a zero balance" typically refers to keeping the balance of a financial account, such as a credit card or bank account, at zero. This means that all charges or debts on the account are fully paid off, and there is no outstanding amount owed. In the context of a credit card , maintaining a zero balance means paying off the entire amount owed by the due date, which can help avoid interest charges and keep your credit utilization low, benefiting your credit score. In the context of a bank account , maintaining a zero balance might mean regularly transferring funds out to another account or using all available funds so that the account remains empty. This could be done for budgeting purposes, or in some cases, it might refer to a type of account (like a zero-balance account) designed for specific cash management practices in businesses, where...

The Trinity & Mimesis

 ME > Consider the following:  So here is I am “floating a theologoumenon”. This is speculation on my part.  ~ The Father is source or font of all being. I.e. He is the origin of the Son and the Spirit. They are ontological co-equal, but He is in some sense prior to the Son and the Spirit. ~ The Son proceeds from the Father and as such is subject to the Father. ~ The Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son and so the Spirit are subject to both the Father and the Son (Filioque). The pastor/preacher’s role is akin to that of the Father. The word proceeds from the pastor. The Word proceeds from the Father. The Father also rules over all things authoritatively.   The elder’s role is akin to the Son. The elder is under the authority of the pastor (contra your/Strauch and contra the presby distinction bec it does not go far enough). The elder can teach, counsel and act as a go-between between a lay person and pastor. I.e. intercede.  The deacon’s role...

Evangelical Ethics and Buridan's Ass (3)

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ME> Okay, so here's my claim. Theologian R.C. Sproul has said that if chance exists, then God does not exist and if God exists then chance does not. God and chance cannot coexist. Now, mutatis mutandum (spelling?), we could, following Sproul line of thinking, argue that God and randomness cannot coexist. ChatGPT> Your claim aligns with R.C. Sproul's theological perspective, which emphasizes the sovereignty and omnipotence of God. According to Sproul's view, if chance or randomness exists as an independent force, it would imply that events could occur without divine causation or control. This would contradict the idea of an all-knowing, all-powerful God who governs all aspects of reality. Mutatis Mutandis Explanation The phrase "mutatis mutandis" is Latin for "the necessary changes having been made" or "with the appropriate modifications." It's used to indicate that while a certain point or principle is being adapted, certain adju...

Evangelical Ethics and Buridan's Ass (2)

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ME > A re you familiar with the medieval philosophical problem known as Buridan's ass. GEMINI >  Yes, I am familiar with the medieval philosophical problem known as Buridan's ass. It's a classic thought experiment that explores the concepts of free will, determinism, and rational decision-making. In essence, Buridan's ass is a hypothetical donkey placed exactly midway between two identical piles of hay. The donkey is equally hungry and thirsty, and both piles of hay are equally appealing. The problem poses the question: Will the donkey be able to make a choice and eat, or will it remain paralyzed by indecision and starve to death? The paradox highlights the potential difficulties faced by a perfectly rational being when presented with two equally desirable options. It suggests that if all choices are truly equal, a rational being might be unable to break the tie and act, leading to inaction and potentially negative consequences. ME> So the donkey could be (1) ...

Evangelical Ethics and Buridan's Ass (1)

ME > In recent Evangelical theology in the area of Ethics there have been four ethical theories that have played a prominent role.  One is Situational Ethics . I am not too concerned with this.  A second is Conflicting Absolutism . I call this the Lesser Evil Approach. Here both outcomes in a given ethical situation are bad, only that one is not as bad as the other.  A third is Graded Absolutism . I call this the Greater Good Approach. Here the greater good is the better absolute to pick in a given situation.  A final one is Non-Conflicting Absolutism , where it is purported that authentic moral conflicts are impossible. I.e. that they cannot obtain in a world where there is an omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent God.  Does the above sound right to you?  ChatGPT Answer > Yes, your summary of the four ethical theories in recent Evangelical theology is broadly accurate. Here's a bit more detail on each to help clarify: Situational Ethics : This theo...